
About the Podcast
Disrupting Death: conversations about Medical Assistance in Dying in Canada. Hosts, Kathy Kortes-Miller and Keri-Lyn Durant lead with curiosity as they interview a wide range of guests who know M.A.i.D intimately.
About the Research Project
This podcast is funded through a 5 year Insight Grant: Disrupting Death; An examination of Canadian experiences with medical assistance in dying (MAiD) from the Social Sciences and Humanities Research Council (SSHRC). Our research team is grateful for this funding and excited to use this podcast to have important conversations about MAiD and end-of-life. The goal of this research is to provide insight and contribute to improving the implementation of accessible, person-centered MAiD for Canadians and alongside the following objectives:
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Acquire a deeper understanding of the experiences of Canadians who are intimately impacted by MAiD including 3 different groups of Canadians most intimately involved with MAiD, those who request it (individuals), those who accompany them (informal caregivers; friends and family) and those who provide the intervention (health care providers)
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Increase understanding about the questions, concerns, and desires that Canadian have about MAiD and other aspects of end-of-life care through interviews and focus groups;
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Use a community engagement process to increase the information Canadians have about MAiD using digital stories and a podcast.
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Expand upon a multi-year research program informed by people who have bee impacted by MAiD that will directly address identified knowledge, system and policy gaps; to develop a research relationship with community partners and community members as a basis for future collaboration.
Episodes

Friday Apr 21, 2023
Friday Apr 21, 2023
In this episode, the personal IS political, as hosts Kathy and Keri talk about true choice and advanced requests for MAiD with the honourable senator Pamela Wallin.
Please note, this episode was recorded on March 8th, 2023. Since this date, there have been changes to the MAiD legislation that may not be alluded to in this episode by the hosts or Senator Wallin.
Trigger warning: Themes of death, dying and suicide
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Pamela Wallin, O.C., S.O.M. is a Canadian senator, journalist, diplomat, and entrepreneur with a career spanning almost 40 years. Pamela is an Officer of the Order of Canada and a member of the Saskatchewan Order of Merit, and has received many awards for her public service and achievements. Wallin is also a best-selling author of three books, including her autobiography, Since You Asked. She has worked for various media outlets, including CBC radio, the Toronto Star, and CTV, where she hosted Canada AM and became the Ottawa Bureau chief and anchor of the CTV weekend news. In 1992, Wallin became the first Canadian woman to co-anchor the nightly national television newscast Prime Time News. She founded Pamela Wallin Productions in 1995, an independent television company that proved invaluable in her subsequent public service.
To learn more about Pamela Wallin, you can visit her website https://pamelawallin.com/
Music for Disrupting Death was created by the ever lovely Sarah McInnis. Sarah is a music therapist, a songwriter, a multi-instrumentalist and End-of-Life Doula. In 2021, Sarah began The Legacy Song Project, writing original songs for folks at the end-of-life, and for folks who have lost loved ones. To learn more about Sarah, visit her website https://sarahmcinnis.com
This episode of Disrupting Death was edited by Sadie Mallon.

Friday Mar 17, 2023
Friday Mar 17, 2023
“It’s a really deep kind of love, to be willing to let someone go, that you’re not ready to see go.”
On this episode of Disrupting Death, Kathy and Keri speak with Jill Bodak, author of “Loved into Being,” about her experiences grieving, loving and supporting her father following his stroke in 2020, up until his medically assisted death in 2022.
Trigger warning: Themes of death, dying and suicide
Jill Bodak is a Manual Osteopath, Writer, Speaker and Anatomy Educator in Toronto,
Ontario. Her debut non-fiction work, “Loved Into Being” is a brave and honest depiction of life after stroke through the eyes of a daughter. Jill’s writing navigates the hard and soft spots of her own interior and invites the reader into this private landscape that includes joy, terror, grief and unshakeable love.
Jill has a Kinesiology degree from Lakehead University and a Master’s degree in Osteopathic Manual Therapy from The Canadian Academy of Osteopathy. Now, she studies the Emotionally Integrated Voice pedagogy of Fides Krucker and has a ten-year history in the tradition of Zen meditation. She has taught wellness retreats across the country. Since the onset of her father’s stroke in 2020, Jill has been reading, writing, teaching, and helping him heal. She has used the things she learned on his behalf to help countless others with brain injury, cognitive delay, motor deficits and grief. She continues to run a clinical practice that she loves, helping people find a felt sense of their own bodies that lets them move through the world with more ease.
You can buy Jill’s book, “Loved into Being: Reflections on Stroke and Being Indestructible” here: https://www.amazon.ca/Loved-Into-Being-Reflections-Indestructible/dp/B0BPGPKZJW/ref=sr_1_1?crid=2SZE51C98WX8U&keywords=loved%20into%20being&qid=1670721158&sprefix=loved%20into%20being%2Caps%2C266&sr=8-1
Music for Disrupting Death was created by the ever lovely Sarah McInnis. Sarah is a music therapist, a songwriter, a multi-instrumentalist and End-of-Life Doula. In 2021, Sarah began The Legacy Song Project, writing original songs for folks at the end-of-life, and for folks who have lost loved ones. To learn more about Sarah, visit her website https://sarahmcinnis.com
This episode of Disrupting Death was edited by Sadie Mallon.

Friday Feb 24, 2023
Friday Feb 24, 2023
In this first episode of Disrupting Death, Kathy and Keri-Lyn have a conversation with Sandra Martin about the history of M.A.i.D in Canada, stories of early M.A.i.D advocates, the importance of leading with an open heart, writing your own obituary, the power of narratives and much more.
Trigger warning: Themes of death, dying and suicide
As a journalist for The Globe and Mail, Sandra Martin was known for her books and arts coverage and her perceptive, deeply researched and vividly written obituaries. Sandra Martin is the author of the critically acclaimed national bestseller, A Good Death: Making the Most of Our Final Choices. Winner of the B.C. National Non-Fiction Award and a finalist for both the Dafoe Prize and the Donner Prize in Public Policy, A Good Death was named one of the best books of 2016 by The Globe and Mail, the CBC and several other media outlets. Margaret Atwood has called A Good Death “a timely and deeply felt account of assisted dying: the histories, the issues” and included it on her list of best books about death and dying. A Good Death was published in a revised paperback edition in 2017 with a new chapter on Bill C-14, Canada’s Medical Assistance in Dying law (MAID).
For more information about Sandra Martin, check out her website! http://www.sandramartinwrites.com/
Links to items mentioned in this episode:
Sandra’s Martin’s book: A Good Death:
https://www.amazon.ca/Good-Death-Making-Final-Choices/dp/1443435961
Pierre Berton’s Obituary: https://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/national/a-voice-of-canada-is-gone-as-pierre-berton-dies-at-84/article18278395/
On Kim Teske’s Death: https://www.theglobeandmail.com/life/health-and-fitness/health/kims-choice-how-one-family-confronts-a-genetic-time-bomb/article19657030/
On John Hofsess:
https://reviewcanada.ca/magazine/2022/04/death-of-an-author/
“By The Time You Read This I’ll Be Dead” by John Hofsess:
https://torontolife.com/life/john-hofsess-assisted-suicide/
Atul Gwande’s Book: Being Mortal:
https://www.amazon.ca/Being-Mortal-Medicine-What-Matters/dp/0805095152
Music for Disrupting Death was created by the ever lovely Sarah McInnis. Sarah is a music therapist, a songwriter, a multi-instrumentalist and End-of-Life Doula. In 2021, Sarah began The Legacy Song Project, writing original songs for folks at the end-of-life, and for folks who have lost loved ones. To learn more about Sarah, visit her website https://sarahmcinnis.com
This episode of Disrupting Death was edited by Sadie Mallon.

Friday Feb 10, 2023
Friday Feb 10, 2023
Disrupting Death: Conversations about Medical
Meet our hosts, Kathy Kortes-Miller and Keri-Lyn Durant!
A new episode of Disrupting Death will be released every 3rd Friday of every month. Email us at disruptingdeathmaid@gmail.com to subscribe to receive notifications each time a new episode is released. Visit our website for more information about the project: https://www.disruptingdeath.ca/
Music for Disrupting Death was created by the ever lovely Sarah McInnis. Sarah is a music therapist, a songwriter, a multi-instrumentalist and End-of-Life Doula. In 2021, Sarah began The Legacy Song Project, writing original songs for folks at the end-of-life, and for folks who have lost loved ones. To learn more about Sarah, visit her website https://sarahmcinnis.com








